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Permalink Reply by Grégory on April 10, 2015 at 1:19pm Only the first one is acceptable. The second one is not french :)

No ,your second example is completely unacceptable , Robert (go to the back of the class ! )
Permalink Reply by Robert on April 11, 2015 at 12:20am 
Not really. You mean you "made him start to use homeopathy"?
Your French sentence makes no sense to me.
You could have said
"Je lui ai conseillé à utiliser l'homéopathie"
If you want to say something like "I started him on a homeopathy course" you might say perhaps
"Grâce a moi ,il s'est mis à utiliser l'homéopathie"or "C'est moi qui l'ai poussé à utiliser l'homéopathie"
Permalink Reply by Robert on April 11, 2015 at 6:55am
Permalink Reply by Antoine Olivier on April 11, 2015 at 9:58am It's "Je lui ai conseillé d'utiliser l'homéopathie" instead of "Je lui ai conseillé à utiliser l'homéopathie"

Thanks.That is a weakness of mine.
Permalink Reply by Grégory on April 11, 2015 at 4:44pm If one adds 'être' to 'se mettre à' that doesn't form the passive present but the active passé composé, 's'être mis à'.
Robert, I think the closest of your uncorrect sentences is 'faire se mettre qqn à quelque chose', e.g. 'Je l'ai fait se mettre à l'homéopathie' (p.composé) or ' Je le fait se mettre à l'homéopathie' (present) which are completely correct.
The pronominal constructions including the semi-auxiliary 'faire' don't express passive voice. They express what is called in linguistics causative voice. In the example above : I caused the fact that he started homeopathy, or something like that. Actually I think that passive voice is impossible with reflexive pronominal verbs for logical reasons. So using 'faire' in causative sentences is a solution to express a sort of passivity.
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