pls help

[melody]

can u pls help translate the following? i understand only some of the words..

1.ces objets vont ensemble parce qu'ils
2. range des objets semblables dans la meme poche

thanks a lot! merci!

[Pamela Kingfisher]

1. These objects go together because they
2.various(I think) things together in the same pocket

Native speakers might find a better way to translate it. Pam

[melody]

thanks a lot pamela!!

[Pamela Kingfisher]

Oh you are welcome! Pam
Welcome to the forum.

[mali mitrani]

I believe:

These objects go together because the two are things that are related and belong in the same "pocket", category, (etc)

That's what i think

mali

[Frank]

The line numbers are confusing, but this is single sentence (also, I guess "ils" should be "il", i.e. singular).

And indeed, it means that these objects go together because he usually groups similar objects in the same pocket.

"dans la même poche" isn't an expression, so it really means in the same pocket.

[Pamela Kingfisher]

Ah! So ranger means to place, put away, tidy up....I thought range meant the same thing, because I thought range of things....anglicism again!
Thanks Frank!
Pam

[Frank]

Hi Pam,

Indeed this is a faux ami.

If you want to say "range" as "spectrum", you can say "choix" (masculine) or "gamme" (feminine).

[Pamela Kingfisher]

Il y a des choix à ranger, les chambres, demenager la salle de bains ou faire la vaiselle.

Would this be correct? You are telling your kids they have a choice of household chores. Pam

[Frank]

Hi Pam,

Here's a couple of examples:

KitchenAid a une large gamme de couleurs de mixeurs (a wide spectrum of blenders)
La gamme d'iPods est constituée de l'iPod Nano, de l'iPod Shuffle et de l'iPod Touch.
Il y a le choix (there's choice)

Neither "choix" nor "gamme" are followed by "à" + verb, we'd rather use "au choix" followed by nouns. Here is a way to translate your sentence:

Il y a au choix le rangement des chambres, le déménagement de la salle de bains et la vaisselle

Here's another way, using "le choix entre", which is followed by verbs:

Il y a le choix entre ranger les chambres, déménager la salle de bains ou faire la vaisselle.

[Pamela Kingfisher]

Frank,
ahhh!! au choix. This is interesting that you use Il y à au.....isn't this redundant?
Il y à à le choix?
Non? Pam

[Frank]

Hi Pam,

Please note that it's "Il y a", not "Il y à" and this is what doesn't make it redundant.

[Pamela Kingfisher]

DOH!! I'm dense. "a" is 3rd person avoir verb. DOH!
Pam